Archangel Gabriel & his brother Lucifer Morningstar only have half of there powere cuss its divided in themselves.they both have power to creat universes with ease but if both wanted they could creat multiverse.as power as Franklin he cant creat multiverses that would be like saying his more powerful then Thanos with the heart. alright alright dammit, i got universe cunfused with multiverse, even so franklin could create a universe as a child, whats to stop him from creating an alternate multiverse when he reaches his true potential. It refuses again to join a human host, but is forced by Michael, Archangel of Heaven. If after I think franking might still take it. I honestly dont know that much about Prime but from what I read I dont think hes any more powerful than Richards. Spectre can alter you soul. It's just a rumor, nothing more. Franklin and X-Man can alter reality (locally) as much as they like, Spectre won't be affected because he really isn't confined to the rules of ANY reality. Hehe...heh...Franklin is uh...an ant compared to Superman Prime...so is X-Man. ANYWAY, both prime and spectar get their asses kicked by franklin. AND THAT LEADS ME TO SAY THAT LUCIFER MORNINGSTAR IS ONLY HALF AS POWERFUL AS FRANKLIN RICHARDS, and as far as the discussion about FRANKLIN beeing JUST A MUTANT and thus beeing very weak against any mutant snatching device goes. the earth would seem to be tha size of jupiter since we would be so much smaller. is because he isnt. wrong LUCIFER can creat a UNIVERSE with no problem but he needs his brother to creat a multiverse somthing I think FRANKLIN can do. Adult Franklin could fight 1 Celestial and maybe have a close fight against 2, but don't act like he can run through them like they are nothing. And as powerful as Franklin is he is still a mutant! Superman-Prime might be able to win say, 3/10 considering retcon powers and speed. . !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The Big Bang. Superman prime would kick ass even if spectre was on thier team. ...anything but beat Michael. Prime's enemy was some living sun. Franklin and Nate are as useless against the Spectre as Supes is against them. Whats the difference between a multiverse and multiverses? Franklin is also from outside of the DC universe. Normal reality warping from anyone else should affect him. and every pancake represents a universe{they are infinitely thick and have an infinitely long diameter beacuse the universe itself, scientifically has no end. the only reason the spectre "isnt" seen to be tribunal's equal is becuase it was never part of his hyperbole. It not only explains the "Theory Of Relativity" & it's counterpart "Quantum Mechanics," but also says that there are parallel universes to our own. LUCIFER OR MICHEAL ALONE CAN NOT CREATE A UNIVERSE. oh and yea, one more thing, prime IS more powerful than GALACTUS, http://www.dcuguide.com/Who/Lucifer_Bio.php. I don't know too much about hers characters except that they stomp everyone. Come join our discussions, post your own battles and kick some ass! The Source. Their powers have abnormal advantages that are situational advantages...with a mix who knows wut could happen...really. Spectre was supposed to be living tribunals equal...if thats so then him alone could take tha other three. What can Franklin Richards actually do, if he can only create an universe I believe Spectre could (even though he never would) do that too. exactly my point HARMONIC, it doesnt matter how big the universe that franklin created is its the fact that he CREATED it in the first place that matters. Spectre is a full-fledged cosmic being. If spectre is so powerful then how did he get killed by hal Jordan? If someone could clear this up for me if be able to answer better. Prime NEVER received this because it was his descendent who married a 5th dimension Imp and that line after (including 1 Million) inherited Imp blood/powers. IIRC that's because he doesn't originate from the DC Multiverse and SBP was ridiculously amped or something. When he fought the sun eater, he was depowered by that point. . If Franklin is unable to warp Prime could he not just use his powers to increase his own strength? Franklin is below a cube...and so is X-Man. His Kryptonian DNA -- though diluted through centuries of inter-species breeding -- blessed him with incredible Kryptonian-derived powers; today's Superman's powers . Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. You are indeed where you belong. no actually, thas not true when ur talkin about universes, physically, a universe has no end{this is understood as a fact in physics}, only in terms of energy can a universe have a limit, concepts like beginning and end dont work too well when ur talkin about an entire universe, since it was the universe itself that created these concepts, neway, if you kept on travelling in the universe, ud probably be in for an eternal ride {although it is believed by some physicists that if u kept on going INFINITELY in one direction in the universe, ud probably end up where u started, because u can not just bounce out of existance itself. He can do whatever he wants and he doesnt need the ok from anybody if you know what I mean. um "click click" i was talkin from the point of veiw of physics, but if your talkin about it from a purely comic point of view then ur right, but if not then i am right. Actually if you read my posts you could see I wanted clarification on that one because I wasnt sure. But anyway is there any restriction to Franklin Richards or is he basically more powerful than anyone else. Richards laughs at Kal Kent, then changes his atoms so that he explodes. Parallax Killed the Sun Eater...not the prior Spectre...have no idea what became of him. PROME ALSO HAD A SWORD(WITCH IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN WAS AS POWERFUL IF NOT MORE THEN THE COSMIC CUBE). KMC Forums > Comic Book Forums > Comic Book 'Versus' Forum > X-man and Franklin Richards VS Superman Prime and The Spectre! well superman doesnt really matter in this fight, hes too weak. Franklin created an alternate reality, a universe that was outside the regular MU but it was inside the Marvel Multiverse. I wouldnt speculate that Frank could affect LT though unless it is shown to be possible in the comics. There is no such thing as size. If so, I don't see what Franklin can do. adult which kinda makes it speculative (the full scale of his powers) but from what we know it is enough to take those two. but we have seen in the past that he is not in any way on par with beings like lucifer and micheal{the ones which have the ability to create universes}, and the spectar got the beating of his life by parallex. Actually, 1 Million does get energy from Prime, but 1 Million also has Imp blood in him. Bah! the spectre can do what ever he want but he has to get an ok from his og. So unless hes faster than his thoughts than that wouldnt be correct. we will see what they do with the character, its hard to say at this point. thats the worst reasoning ive ever heard no offense. Prime and Spectre can take him 1 on 1 and win. were did you get the idea franklin is more power then Lucifer Morningstar?? Superman Prime stomps Franklin 10/10. . I do wonder if LT would exist inside that pocket Universe simultaneously to its creation. if the hulk can do it so can prime AND spectre. yea but u forget that after he ripped onslaught's armour, he just made onslaught A LOT MORE POWERFUL and almost indestructable, anyway, im very sure that onslaught was nowhere near controlling franklin's TRUE POTENTIAL, franklin could create universes without breaking a sweat as a kid, at his full potential, i wouldnt be surprised if he would rival the powers of the tribunal or the heart of the universe. You think hes more powerful than what as a child? can you imagine if we were tha size of beetles? umm....is this franklin richards when he's grown up?....cos it would be funny watching all dese super dudes fighting a lil kid. think about it, what does it take to create a scyscraper{ a helluva lot}, and what does it take to destroy one{i suppose jus half a ton of c 4 explosives will be enough}. And no way that he would be more powerful than the Tribunal or other cosmic beings. It was in some time after Magneto had taken control of Genosha that the High Evo. Franklin seperates the human host from the spectre force and kills the human. On a limited scale. The universe is created, formed of vapor and forged with fire. Reality manipulation? LT on the other hand his description is well.......more descriptive. Parallax is much like the SS in that he stores and channels energies. Franklin is just above a full-powered Galactus in terms of raw power, but Spectre is a freakin' beast and the Living Tribunal's counterpart. should'nt prime and spectre be able to beat them like whore's before they even had a thought i'm guessing prime could do that. Theres two people .... X-man and Frank Richards. X-man and Franklin Richards VS Superman Prime and The Spectre! Franklin's ability to manipulate reality is not limited to simply creating pocket universes. Anyway Franklin probably takes this extremely convincingly. This point in time is often referred to as the "First World". can someone tell me exactly how powerfull superman prime is...i been hearing alot of stuff about how he's so0o0o powerful etc etc....so exact;y HOW much more powerful is he than bak in the ol' dayz. Great energies are born and just as quickly dies as that which was formless struggles to find a form, and that which is without reason seeks purpose. Superman Prime* VS Silver Surfer Wonder Woman VS Franklin Richards* Big Barda VS World War Hulk* White Lantern* VS Sentry Martian Manhunter* VS Hyperion-Superman Prime VS Rune King Thor* White Lantern* VS World War Hulk Martian Manhunter VS Franklin Richards*-White Lantern VS RK Thor and Frankie* EmptyHand 1 y 6 mo 5 d .